1104-23 NY Times Crossword 4 Nov 23, Saturday

Constructed by: David P. Williams
Edited by: Will Shortz

Today’s Theme: None

Bill’s time: 16m 35s

Bill’s errors: 0

Today’s Wiki-est Amazonian Googlies

Across

7 “Fear is ___. So are regrets”: Marilyn Monroe : STUPID

Marilyn Monroe was born in 1926 in LA County Hospital, the child of Gladys Pearl Baker. The young girl was given the name of Norma Jeane Mortenson on her birth certificate, but her mother changed this to Norma Jeane Baker almost immediately. She and her estranged husband, Martin Edward Mortensen, had separated before Baker became pregnant so it is suggested that the Mortensen name was used just to give Norma Jeane “legitimacy”. Norma Jeane married Jim Dougherty when she was 16 years old, and took his name to become Norma Jeane Dougherty in 1942. During WWII she was discovered by a photographer and became quite a successful model. The modeling earned her a screen test, at which time it was suggested that Norma Jeane change her name yet again. The first name chosen for her by studio executives was Carole Lind (after Carole Lombard and Jenny Lind), but then Norma Jeane chose “Jeane Monroe” for herself, using her mother’s maiden name. It didn’t take long before the studio intervened again, suggesting that they had too many “Jeans” already. The name Marilyn Monroe was floated as it had a nice ring to it. Along with the new name, Marilyn changed from a brunette to a blonde, and a star was born …

18 Island home of Odysseus : ITHACA

Ithaca is a Greek island in the Ionian Sea. It features in Homer’s “Odyssey” as it was the home of the mythological hero Odysseus, who was Ithaca’s king.

19 Acute … or the opposite of acute : GRAVE

In French, accents over the letter E can be acute (é, “accent aigu”) or grave (è, “accent grave”).

22 Appropriate word found scrambled in “pedantic” : NIT

A pedant is a person “who trumpets minor points of learning”, a person who tends to nit-pick. “Pedant” comes via Middle French from the Italian word “pedante” meaning “teacher”.

23 To be overseas? : ETRE

The verb “to be” is “ser” in Spanish and “être” in French.

25 Minced oath : GOSH

The verb “to mince” can mean “to make light of”, and more specifically “to criticize using polite language”. William Shakespeare used the term in such a sense in a couple of his plays, although the derivative expression “mince words” was first used in print in Benjamin Disraeli’s first novel “Vivian Grey”, published in 1826:

Your Lordship’s heart is very warm in the cause of a party, which, for I will not mince my words, has betrayed you.

So, to mince words is to moderate one’s language while still giving criticism. The related phrase “minced oath” describes a euphemistic phrase used to replace a more profane phrase, e.g. “gosh” for “God”, “heck” for “hell”.

31 Yo-yos, in a way : WALKS THE DOG

A common yo-yo trick is to “walk the dog”. It involves spinning the yo-yo at the end of its string, and then letting the yo-yo touch the ground. The spin then causes the yo-yo to “walk” along the ground beside you, as if you are walking a dog.

33 Tricks : ROOKS

To rook is to cheat. The earlier use of “rook” as a noun was as a disparaging term describing a swindler or cheat. Somehow, it was insulting to refer to a person as a rook, as in the type of bird.

39 Square meal? : BENTO

A bento is a single-person meal that is eaten quite commonly in Japan. A bento can be purchased as a take-out meal, or it may be packed at home. A bento is usually sold as a “bento box”.

40 City nickname that includes its state’s postal code : NOLA

The city of New Orleans, Louisiana has the nickname “The Big Easy”. This name might come from the early 1900s when musicians found it relatively “easy” to find work there. The city is also known by the acronym NOLA, standing for New Orleans (NO), Louisiana (LA).

41 Paradise of the Beat Generation : SAL

Jack Kerouac’s 1957 novel “On the Road” is largely autobiographical, telling the story of Sal Paradise (Jack K.) and the road trips that he and his friends took across the country in the fifties.

42 When Macbeth says “Is this a dagger which I see before me …?” : ACT II

In William Shakespeare’s “Macbeth”, one of the more famous soliloquies starts with, “Is this a dagger which I see before me …?” There isn’t an actual dagger in front of Macbeth, but instead he sees the vision of a dagger pointing at King Duncan’s bedchamber, perhaps suggesting that he should go ahead with his plan to murder the King.

Is this a dagger which I see before me,
The handle toward my hand? Come, let me clutch thee.
I have thee not, and yet I see thee still.
Art thou not, fatal vision, sensible
To feeling as to sight? or art thou but
A dagger of the mind, a false creation,
Proceeding from the heat-oppressed brain?

44 Type leaning to the right : ITALIC

Italic type leans to the right, and is often used to provide emphasis in text. The style is known as “italic” because the stylized calligraphic form of writing originated in Italy, probably in the Vatican.

46 Take some hits : SMOKE POT

“Potiguaya” is the Mexican-Spanish word for “marijuana leaves”. The slang name “pot” comes from “potiguaya”.

49 It’s a bad look : EVIL EYE

The evil eye is a curse that is cast by giving a malicious glare.

Down

2 Secret code? : OMERTA

“Omertà” is a code of honor in southern Italian society. The term has been adopted by the Mafia to mean a code of silence designed to prevent a Mafioso from becoming an informer. For example, the famous Joe Valachi was someone who broke the code of silence in 1963, informing on the New York Mafia. Valachi’s story was told in the movie “The Valachi Papers”, with Charles Bronson playing the lead.

3 Blackjack starter : UPCARD

Blackjack is one of the few casino games where the player has a decent chance to beat the house. This is because the house edge in blackjack is relatively low, around 1%. That edge can be reduced by “counting cards”, something that casinos really don’t like …

10 Member of a “grand” trio? : PIANO LEG

A grand piano is one with the frame supported horizontally on three legs. An upright piano has the frame and strings running vertically. Grand pianos come in many sizes. For example, the length of a concert grand is about 9 feet, a parlor grand is about 7 feet, and a baby grand is about 5 feet.

11 Canine relative : INCISOR

The incisors are the front teeth, of which humans have eight. The term “incisor” comes from the Latin “incidere” meaning “to cut”.

17 It was introduced at the Olympics in 1988 : TABLE TENNIS

Ping-Pong is called table tennis in the UK, where the sport originated in the 1880s. Table tennis started as an after-dinner activity among the elite, and was called “wiff-waff”. To play the game, books were stacked in the center of a table as a “net”, two more books served as “”rackets” and the ball used was actually a golf ball. The game evolved over time with the rackets being upgraded to the lids of cigar boxes and the ball becoming a champagne cork (how snooty is that?). Eventually the game was produced commercially, and the sound of the ball hitting the racket was deemed to be a “ping” and a “pong”, giving the sport its alternative name. The name “Ping-Pong” was trademarked in Britain in 1901, and eventually sold to Parker Brothers in the US.

24 Squares : DORKS

I consider “dork” and “adorkable” to be pretty offensive slang. “Dork” originated in the sixties among American students, and has its roots in another slang term, a term for male genitalia.

25 Never-seen title character : GODOT

An Irishman I may be, but I have sat through several plays by Samuel Beckett (the Irish dramatist) and I have yet to come away feeling satisfied that I spent my time well. Of course I am in the minority, as Beckett’s play “Waiting for Godot” was once voted the most significant English language play of the 20th century. Maybe I will give “Waiting for Godot” another chance one day, but I doubt it …

28 Title woman in a Beatles song : SADIE

“Sexy Sadie” is a song written by John Lennon and released by the Beatles in 1968. Lennon wrote the song in India, and its original title was “Maharishi”.

29 Winner of two consecutive Best Actor Oscars : HANKS

Tom Hanks is such a great actor. He has played so many iconic roles in a relatively short career. Hanks is from California, and studied theater for a couple of years in Hayward, California not far from here. Tom’s son Colin Hanks is one of the stars of the TV comedy “Life in Pieces”. Hanks is married to the talented actress Rita Wilson.

31 “Hansel and Gretel” setting : WOODLAND

“Hansel and Gretel” is a Germanic fairy tale found in the collection of the Brothers Grimm. It tells of two siblings, Hansel and Gretel, the children of a woodcutter. The youngsters are abandoned in a forest at the behest of an evil stepmother. Clever Hansel hears of the plan and leaves a trail of pebbles so that he and his sister can find their way home, which they do. But the children are abandoned again and this time leave a trail of breadcrumbs. Unfortunately, the crumbs are eaten by birds and so the children do indeed become lost. But eventually they do all live happily ever after …

32 Like Goodwill goods : DONATED

Goodwill Industries is a non-profit organization focused on providing aid to people in the community. Goodwill is funded by thrift stores located right across North America. The organization has its roots in an urban outreach program of the Morgan Methodist Chapel in Boston, Massachusetts that started operations in 1902. That program involved the collection of discarded household goods and clothing, and the repair of the items so that they could be distributed to the needy.

36 Bronzes, say : ALLOYS

Brass is an alloy of copper and zinc. Compare this with bronze, an alloy of copper and tin. Brass and bronze are often mistaken for each other.

40 Line after “On a cold winter’s night that was so deep”? : NOELS

“The First Noel” is a traditional Christmas carol from England that probably dates back to the 1700s.

The First Noel the angel did say
Was to certain poor shepherds in fields as they lay;
In fields as they lay, keeping their sheep,
On a cold winter’s night that was so deep.
Noel, Noel, Noel, Noel,
Born is the King of Israel.

Complete List of Clues/Answers

Across

1 Sources of wisdom : FOUNTS
7 “Fear is ___. So are regrets”: Marilyn Monroe : STUPID
13 Threaten : IMPERIL
15 Slow-simmered stew of northwest Africa : TAGINE
16 Run-down : DECREPIT
18 Island home of Odysseus : ITHACA
19 Acute … or the opposite of acute : GRAVE
20 They’ve got tickets to rides : FAIRS
22 Appropriate word found scrambled in “pedantic” : NIT
23 To be overseas? : ETRE
24 What charges produce : DEBTS
25 Minced oath : GOSH
26 Touch : TAD
27 Spring winds? : COILS
28 Performances most likely to cause sweaty palms : SOLOS
29 One ponying up for a deal? : HORSE TRADER
31 Yo-yos, in a way : WALKS THE DOG
32 “No biggie” : DON’T SWEAT IT
33 Tricks : ROOKS
34 ___ deux vins (tipsy: Fr.) : ENTRE
35 Part of a mic check : TAP
38 They may be loose or tight : ENDS
39 Square meal? : BENTO
40 City nickname that includes its state’s postal code : NOLA
41 Paradise of the Beat Generation : SAL
42 When Macbeth says “Is this a dagger which I see before me …?” : ACT II
43 People : SOULS
44 Type leaning to the right : ITALIC
46 Take some hits : SMOKE POT
48 Strip : DENUDE
49 It’s a bad look : EVIL EYE
50 Went down the drain, say : EDDIED
51 Value : ASSESS

Down

1 Squirm : FIDGET
2 Secret code? : OMERTA
3 Blackjack starter : UPCARD
4 Pluck : NERVE
5 Lemon or orange : TREE
6 Nurse : SIP
7 Moves : STIRS
8 They get under one’s skin, informally : TATS
9 “Not again!” : UGH!
10 Member of a “grand” trio? : PIANO LEG
11 Canine relative : INCISOR
12 War historian’s tally : DEATHS
14 “Ahhhh, bliss!” : LIFE IS SWEET
17 It was introduced at the Olympics in 1988 : TABLE TENNIS
21 “We should get going” : IT’S THAT TIME
24 Squares : DORKS
25 Never-seen title character : GODOT
27 Ride ’em, cowboy! : COLTS
28 Title woman in a Beatles song : SADIE
29 Winner of two consecutive Best Actor Oscars : HANKS
30 Certain rocket engine : RETRO
31 “Hansel and Gretel” setting : WOODLAND
32 Like Goodwill goods : DONATED
33 Live : RESIDE
35 Part of a disguise, maybe : TOUPEE
36 Bronzes, say : ALLOYS
37 Wallops : PASTES
39 Kept in the loop, in a way : BCC’ED
40 Line after “On a cold winter’s night that was so deep”? : NOELS
42 Second : AIDE
43 Snowmobile base : SKIS
45 Italian pronoun that becomes a name by adding -gi : LUI
47 Some bank deposits : OVA

17 thoughts on “1104-23 NY Times Crossword 4 Nov 23, Saturday”

  1. 35:43 (!) after fixing a one-square misstep that I had forgotten to go back and check. When I got the “almost there” message, I remembered exactly where it was, and it was easy to fix (UGH instead of UHH, giving TAGINE, which I’ve actually heard of, instead of TAHINE, which seemed plausible until I actually thought about it). In any case … every part of this puzzle was ridiculously hard for me, and I’m not sure why. I’ve made a paper copy and will try it again in a few days; maybe I can figure out what made it so difficult … 🤨.

    1. Annnddd … the paper version has been sitting there for five weeks, so maybe I’ll try it tomorrow and see what I think of it. We’ll see … 🤨.

    2. Did it, five weeks on: 19:09, no errors. I still had trouble with some of the more deceptive cluing (though I would no longer describe any part of it as “ridiculously hard”).

      I did remember some the answers from the first time. Oddly, though, that was both a plus and a minus. For example, the first time, I’m sure that I got OVA almost immediately; the second time, I got hung up trying to think what the answer was instead of concentrating on what sort of wordplay was involved; I eventually bypassed the entry, getting it later from crosses.

      Final take: I think, five weeks ago, I was having one of my (increasingly frequent) obtuse days … 🙂.

  2. I was having a good crossword week, though under the weather, and thought I was well on my way to finishing this one off in 45 min. , until it turned into my personal puzzle from hell. Specifically, it was a dozen squares in the bottom SE corner. One oversight in verb tense on my part in 46 A (‘smoked up”) threw everything off. Lots of ideas, but nothing would fit. I ended up slapping in Hail Mary’s just to put it out of its misery.
    Puzzle of the week: Thursday. Not too shabby.

    Results for the week:
    +———–+——–+—+——+———+——–+——–+
    | Puzzle | Boxes | | Time | Errors |
    +———–+——–+—+——+———+——–+——–+
    | Sunday | 439 / 441 | 0:59:41 | 2 |
    | Monday | 225 / 225 | 0:11:05 | 0 |
    | Tuesday | 225 / 225 | 0:07:45 | 0 |
    | Wednes | 225 / 225 | 0:28:51 | 0 |
    | Thursday | 225 / 225 | 0:17:46 | 0 |
    | Friday | 222 / 225 | 0:32:25 | 3 |
    | Saturday | 213 / 225 | 2:00:00 | 12 |
    | Week Ttl | 1774 / 1791| 4:37:33 | 17 |
    +———–+——–+—+——+———+——–+——–+

    recordings (rolled up). I truncated the Sat. as the last hour was just wallowing in the corner for an hour and uttering the occasional expletive.

    1. One cannot help but observe that your statistics give evidence of an egregious error: you are shamelessly taking credit for the black squares in each puzzle, which you most certainly had no hand in filling! For example, on today’s puzzle, you report having correctly filled 213 out of 225 squares. But, there are 36 black squares in the grid! So, you really only correctly filled 177 out of 189 non-black squares:

      213/225=.94666666666666 … !
      177/189=.93650793650793 … !

      (However, since you did, in fact, report to us exactly what you did, I shall forgive your obvious urge to skew the results in your favor … 🙂.)

      (Of course, I write this with tongue firmly in cheek … 🙂.)

  3. @nick- wow, that’s a lot of data. What r u tracking?

    For this puzzle, same as @duncanr- NW corner ground me up. I didn’t know FOUNTS but it came after filling in the rest. Guessed OMERTA.

    didn’t know TAGIE either but crosses filled that in also.

    1. Just tracking total errors and time weekly faithful to the actual result.
      It looks like a lot because I hoarded the 7 days but if you add it up, people do report a lot of data voluntarily on this site and it can be analysed like any data.
      The videos and stats were partly to contrast deliberately with what I view as a wishy-washy way of posting results by some of the NYT regulars. Today is a good example.
      From the get-go I got a weird impression from that, which continues. I refrain from even reading them anymore. The smugness of the club just bugs me.
      I think I’ve made my point. I plan to continue the recordings and stats for fun on my rumble account and read Bill’s write ups as needed but otherwise. . . Maybe just occasionally.

      1. Not that people have to report stats, not saying that, but for those who choose to report numbers and times, IMO there’s no point in putting a spin on it as I view some of the odd language used , e.g. “no errors after correcting x, y and z errors.” Not to say anyone’s cheating, just that regular stuff like that has introduced skepticism for me. In a sense, since I may be the only one for whom that’s the case, that will have to be my problem, hence I opt just not to read or participate as much, as I said maybe just check in occasionally.

    2. Re the stats: I ran into that a bit redoing the old ACPT puzzle set I participated in a few years ago. I usually just like to keep it simple, but I tend to report error block and word count because people are pretty torn about which one “counts” and both play into a final ACPT score. Perhaps more interesting are the “hot maps” that some other contests have produced of errors that I’ve seen in doing other “play at homes”.

      That said, I probably spent about 15 minutes trying to recreate what I was sent back then just to see how I did in 2023 compared to then, and still was a bit confused as to whether I did it right or not between errors and ranking. I figured out eventually that I didn’t spreadsheet word errors back then, so I couldn’t check the rankings I was sent for myself.

      Anyway, it was definitely an enlightening experience to redo them, but the results were much like what I’ve been saying for the NYT freebies I’ve gotten to redo. Encouraging in one way, but definitely very discouraging in others.

  4. congrats to the originator of this puzzle. couldn’t fill in a single square. you win, because isn’t that the purpose, to make a puzzle that’s too difficult to do. Not to make one that is fun.

  5. Agree with Anonymous but Saturday is for the pros and us peons will just have to live with it👎👎
    Sta safe😀

  6. I found the cluing to be off-kilter enough to cause some head scratching and I had to look long and hard to find a place to start.
    HANKS was that place and I branched off from there to finish clean.
    Maybe just my day.

  7. I haven’t redone this puzzle yet because I slept in a bit (for once) and then tangled with today’s Newsday (1:01:54, no errors). That, on top of yesterday’s Croce (1:08:25, no errors) may have scratched my crossword itch sufficiently for the nonce. (Both puzzles are worth the time one spends on them, but involve a lot of head-scratching.)

  8. Tough puzzle, but lots of fun. Very satisfying to finish with no errors (on paper with Frixion pen)!

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